Dept of Justice Says States Can Legalize Pot! Police Groups are PISSED!

Eric Holder announced that the Dept of Justice will not interfere with states who legalize marijuana for medical or recreational use which is a huge step forward for our country and will save hundreds of millions of dollars and police hours busting simple weed users. But the polie groups are pissed. They have spent decades busting people for smoking weed and now they will have to deal with stoners being legally stoned, as long as they aren't driving of course.

Organizations that include sheriffs, narcotics officers and big-city police chiefs slammed Attorney General Eric Holder in a joint letter Friday, expressing "extreme disappointment" at his announcement that the Department of Justice would allow Colorado and Washington to implement state laws that legalized recreational marijuana for adults.

"It is unacceptable that the Department of Justice did not consult our organizations -- whose members will be directly impacted -- for meaningful input ahead of this important decision," the letter reads. "Our organizations were given notice just thirty minutes before the official announcement was made public and were not given the adequate forum ahead of time to express our concerns with the Department’s conclusion on this matter. Simply 'checking the box' by alerting law enforcement officials right before a decision is announced is not enough and certainly does not show an understanding of the value the Federal, state, local and tribal law enforcement partnerships bring to the Department of Justice and the public safety discussion."

It's amazing that the police would rather spend their time on this petty shit rather than actual police work. But as is everything else, police groups have become very powerful political entities and we all know that political power is intoxicating. Prisons are now businesses and prisoners are now customers that earn them money. So now there will be a dramatic drop in arrests and people going to jail which means a sinking bottom line for the corporations that own the prisons. I would bet that the police unions and fraternal order of police that call me constantly asking for donations, gets some pretty healthy checks from the prison lobby. Yes, there is a fucking prison lobby now.

Plus, think of all the people who won't be getting felony convictions for smoking weed. That ain't good for the republicans. they have depended on convicted felons not being able to vote for years. Yet another demographic the republicans lose. But they have a good chance because stoners will be too stoned to get to the voting stations in time to vote. Unless they give away free snacks then it's on baby!

Meanwhile, there are 10 more states that will very likely legalize weed for recreational use in the next 18 months:

Alaska
Arizona
California
Nevada
Oregon
Maine
Massachusetts
Montana
Rhode Island
Vermont

My state California really needs to legalize it. So much potential revenue that slips through their fingers classifying it a medicine made available at dispensaries. The beer companies will really be PO'd when marijuana becomes legal.

nah beer is great with weed

Of fucking course they're pissed, they're losing one of the cash-cows.

Wonder what will happen when the junkies or the drug addicts will be sick, will you expect the other people who don't smoke weed to pay for them? Eric Holder is just a big douchebag as much as is most of the Obama administration personnel. I am not mentioning when cartels and gangs will get again power for marijuana supplying, you will get sooner or later blood bathes due to drive by shootings, you will certainly cease to view marijuana as something useful. Not only this drug destructs your braincells but over the long run you become an addict. More drugs, more illegal aliens and more welfare cases, is that the America the Obama voters have dreamed of???

georges said:

Wonder what will happen when the junkies or the drug addicts will be sick, will you expect the other people who don't smoke weed to pay for them?

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The median lethal dose for THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) is unknown. You know why? Because we've never been able to feed monkeys enough weed to kill them. You basically can't smoke enough weed to die. There is a median lethal dose for Aspirin, for Tylenol, for every diet pill, for every sleep aid, for alcohol, for tobacco, for basically every single over the counter medicine and a Hell of a lot of shit that is dropped on the counter. FYI vitamin C has a median lethal dose. That means, YES, vitamin C has been shown to have more serious repercussions when it comes to health than weed.

While there are quite possibly some long term issues involving it (and no, I don't smoke anymore... thanks), primarily relating to memory, suggesting that weed will make you sick is something an ignorant moron will do. Next time read some accurate information before you post.

georges said:

I am not mentioning when cartels and gangs will get again power for marijuana supplying, you will get sooner or later blood bathes due to drive by shootings, you will certainly cease to view marijuana as something useful.

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Ah yes... those infamous "Weed Cartels".

georges said:

Wonder what will happen when the junkies or the drug addicts will be sick, will you expect the other people who don't smoke weed to pay for them? Eric Holder is just a big douchebag as much as is most of the Obama administration personnel. I am not mentioning when cartels and gangs will get again power for marijuana supplying, you will get sooner or later blood bathes due to drive by shootings, you will certainly cease to view marijuana as something useful. Not only this drug destructs your braincells but over the long run you become an addict. More drugs, more illegal aliens and more welfare cases, is that the America the Obama voters have dreamed of???

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Even for you, this is incoherent.

HappyHapyJoyJoy said:

The median lethal dose for THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) is unknown. You know why? Because we've never been able to feed monkeys enough weed to kill them. You basically can't smoke enough weed to die. There is a median lethal dose for Aspirin, for Tylenol, for every diet pill, for every sleep aid, for alcohol, for tobacco, for basically every single over the counter medicine and a Hell of a lot of shit that is dropped on the counter. FYI vitamin C has a median lethal dose. That means, YES, vitamin C has been shown to have more serious repercussions when it comes to health than weed.

While there are quite possibly some long term issues involving it (and no, I don't smoke anymore... thanks), primarily relating to memory, suggesting that weed will make you sick is something an ignorant moron will do. Next time read some accurate information before you post.

Ah yes... those infamous "Weed Cartels".

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Before name calling me a moron, make sure that you are yourself not one and before trying to prove me wrong make sure you can with valid and concrete facts otherwise It is not by namecalling nor insulting me with unproven bullshit that you will prove me wrong. Are you a biologist a chemist? I can prove you with concrete facts that the health of regular smokers can be fucked up by marijuana
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana
http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/dangers-of-marijuana.html
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html
http://brown.edu/Student_Services/H...alcohol,_tobacco,_&_other_drugs/marijuana.php
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/the-harmful-effects.html

When your neighborhood will be plagued by drive by shootings and with innocent victims due to "weed" distribution control, you will tell me how cool is the "weed" related atmosphere

georges said:

Before name calling me a moron, make sure that you are yourself not one and before trying to prove me wrong make sure you can with valid and concrete facts otherwise

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I did give a fact. Find me the median lethal dose of marijuana in humans. You won't because (despite vitamine C and water [yes WATER] having one) weed doesn't have one.

What I can plainly see is that you didn't research your facts and are drawing basically solely from from NIDA research. If you bothered to look beyond what was barfed at you then you'd know that NIDA "research" is tainted, and has been since the "Safe and Effective Drug Act" imposed by Mark Souder. There's nothing scientific about it, as it relies on "meta-analysis" (translation: making shit up) of data by it's own admission.

Please Try Again.

georges said:

When your neighborhood will be plagued by drive by shootings and with innocent victims due to "weed" distribution control, you will tell me how cool is the "weed" related atmosphere

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Drive by shootings by WEED dealers? GTFO. If your primary source of income is selling weed than you can't afford a fucking car to do a drive by with.

This isn't fucking cocaine. The profit margins suck ass since Joe Nobody can grow the shit in his closet.

I feel the need to be clear here since I think the actual wording of my post my have been unintentionally misleading: the Safe and Effective Drug Act itself was shot down in congress due to questions about it's impartiality however "private research" and polling done by NIDA itself (which even NIDA admits is haphazard and biased) has been used by NIDA to essentially fulfill it's role (because it happening was a foregone conclusion). And that "research", by the by, contradicts the research and data of the National Institute of Mental Health.

This is why you never reference NIDA. It's a joke.

georges. it is proven that weed does NOT kill brain cells. it impairs short term memory in SOME people. but if you compare it to alcohol which is used for recreation it is by far a much safer drug physically and emotionally. that's a fact that isn't even disputed

when they made alcohol legal is got rid of the "whiskey cartels" did it not?

Happy is 100% absolutely correct

Why anyone who doesn't want to smoke pot would give a flying fuck about someone who does is beyond me. Just another example of government wanting to stick its nose in our private lives. If I want to sit in the privacy my own living room and smoke pot, it's nobody's business but mine. Potsmokers are, by their very nature, sedentary and passive and generally present no threat to anyone. Drive somewhere when you're drunk? Damn right, gimme the goddammed wheel! Drive somewhere when you're stoned? FUCK NO....the cops will surely pull me over since everyone knows I'm fucked up but hey if you go out would you please bring me back some tacos?

Drive-by shootings by out-of-control weed cartels? That's just ridiculous beyond belief.

spoken like someone who truly has zero idea of what they are talking about

keep watching fox news georges because that can be the only place you are hearing such horse shit

These police groups are they pissed as in drunk, or pissed as in angry?

I have never smoked weed or done any illegal drug ( I'm fucked up enough as i am, nobody needs to see me high LOL) But if the government can raise some tax money from it, as Ron Paul's plan, and lessen my tax burden then go for it

georges said:

Wonder what will happen when the junkies or the drug addicts will be sick, will you expect the other people who don't smoke weed to pay for them? Eric Holder is just a big douchebag as much as is most of the Obama administration personnel. I am not mentioning when cartels and gangs will get again power for marijuana supplying, you will get sooner or later blood bathes due to drive by shootings, you will certainly cease to view marijuana as something useful. Not only this drug destructs your braincells but over the long run you become an addict. More drugs, more illegal aliens and more welfare cases, is that the America the Obama voters have dreamed of???

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Dude, there's nothing wrong with smoking weed. It's not even close to a drug...it's a plant. It originally became illegal, because a lumber baron, back in the wild west days, knew hemp was cheaper, and more cost effective, and knew his monopoly and empire were being threatened. I can smoke an ounce of weed, and the next morning not feel the effects in any way shape or form...but a 12 pack of beer, I'll still be a little buzzed in the morning. Weed isn't a gateway drug, it isn't evil. What is evil is, big pharmaceutical companies poisoning people, and making BILLIONS....all the while, they cause the elderly to go broke, because they have to make their $10 a pill. And that's for shit that doesn't even get you buzzed. The last thing I would like to point out is this...the cartels....the government can stop them, but they don't, because they would rather work with them, so they can control the flow of whats coming into the country, and where its going.


There is more money in pretending to stop it, then legally selling it. That's the sad truth brother...no cartels, no gun control issues, no revenue for the war on drugs. Think about how the pieces of that puzzle fit. It's sickening.

Chopper3000 said:

These police groups are they pissed as in drunk, or pissed as in angry?

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Can't it be both?

revidffum said:

Dude, there's nothing wrong with smoking weed. It's not even close to a drug...it's a plant. It originally became illegal, because a lumber baron, back in the wild west days, knew hemp was cheaper, and more cost effective, and knew his monopoly and empire were being threatened. I can smoke an ounce of weed, and the next morning not feel the effects in any way shape or form...but a 12 pack of beer, I'll still be a little buzzed in the morning. Weed isn't a gateway drug, it isn't evil. What is evil is, big pharmaceutical companies poisoning people, and making BILLIONS....all the while, they cause the elderly to go broke, because they have to make their $10 a pill. And that's for shit that doesn't even get you buzzed. The last thing I would like to point out is this...the cartels....the government can stop them, but they don't, because they would rather work with them, so they can control the flow of whats coming into the country, and where its going.


There is more money in pretending to stop it, then legally selling it. That's the sad truth brother...no cartels, no gun control issues, no revenue for the war on drugs. Think about how the pieces of that puzzle fit. It's sickening.

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Tobacco is "just a plant", too. Technically speaking it is a drug - or contains one -, but this idea that it's somehow on par with heroin and coke is laughable. Legalize it, or at least decriminalize it.

I always thought it was DuPont and William Randolph Hearst that single-handedly made it illegal, because hemp is a much better material. It came down to those two companies standing to lose a LOT of money if it stayed legal.

Justaman said:

Why anyone who doesn't want to smoke pot would give a flying fuck about someone who does is beyond me. Just another example of government wanting to stick its nose in our private lives. If I want to sit in the privacy my own living room and smoke pot, it's nobody's business but mine. Potsmokers are, by their very nature, sedentary and passive and generally present no threat to anyone. Drive somewhere when you're drunk? Damn right, gimme the goddammed wheel! Drive somewhere when you're stoned? FUCK NO....the cops will surely pull me over since everyone knows I'm fucked up but hey if you go out would you please bring me back some tacos?

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I don't smoke it and I don't care who does. The way I see it, your body... your right to put in it whatever you choose. But if you get caught drunk driving or drugged driving (prescription/legal or illicit drugs), then you go to jail and lose your license either way.

Drive-by shootings by out-of-control weed cartels? That's just ridiculous beyond belief.

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There actually is a huge amount of money made by Mexican cartels supplying marijuana into the U.S. And there is violence associated with those cartels as they struggle for power in various U.S. cities - Atlanta and Charlotte are seeing it now. But as has been shown, the DoJ has not (really) gone after the banks and others who launder money for the cartels, so they continue to grow and be a problem. It hasn't been that long ago that Mexico (finally) introduced some minor banking reforms to make it just a little it harder for those who make large deposits of U.S. $ into Mexican banks or make large wire transfers into said banks. But for the most part, all that happens is a bank gets caught, pays a relatively small fine, no one goes to jail and business goes on (with minor modifications).

The (so called) "War on Drugs" has always been focused on small timers and has never been anything but a dog & pony show for the sheeple, who have watched Reefer Madness one too many times. Put some dope on the table in front of some TV cameras, throw a couple of broken pistols up there too... and you can justify spending billions of dollars having cops drive around day & night looking for some goof selling a dime bag of weed. Why? Cause that makes our streets safer... (oh yeah, I almost forgot) for the children - always "for the children".